Willem was the guide on my 9-day tour of southern Africa. Over
the course of our trip, I grew to know and like him. He's quiet,
but runs deep, as you'll hear.
About the Podcast
Tangentially Speaking is dedicated to the idea that good conversation is spontaneous, organic, revelatory, and free to go down unexpected paths with unexpected people. Come hang with comics, porn stars, bank robbers, drug smugglers, scientists, authors, and world travelers.